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Re: Authentic Replicas

Post by the barnacle on Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:04 pm

thats a great thread - well done chaps

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Re: Authentic Replicas

Post by mr.hertzian cone on Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:18 pm

[img][/img]This is the beaker dagger I posted earlier in this gallery but with a third set of notches, looks much better now apart from the last bit of cortex, it was sat in a hollow and nothing I could do would shift it! so I blakened it with boot polish... I have seen some origionals with patches of cortex left so this is not a new problem it seems!

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Post by grendel on Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:55 pm

Here's what I did on sunday, finally got a Cahokia I'm happy with. Third attempt, made the first two with copper, first one was as thin as this but I couldn't removed the initial flake scar without breaking it, second I managed to but was way too thick. This third attempt I abandoned copper and used a soft steeel nail.








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Re: Authentic Replicas

Post by mr.hertzian cone on Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:58 pm

very nice indeed!

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Re: Authentic Replicas

Post by grendel on Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:19 pm

Here's some of the last few weekend's work. 3 more barbed and tanged and neolithic oblique.








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Post by the barnacle on Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:37 pm

wow - they are great - can i ask what flint you used and where do you get the flint? thanks steve.

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Post by grendel on Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:04 am

no sweat I'll give you the address.

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Post by the barnacle on Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:34 pm

Grendel wrote:no sweat I'll give you the address.

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Thank you, much appreciated.

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Re: Authentic Replicas

Post by mr.hertzian cone on Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:25 pm

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there are some shapes that are just pleasing to knap, and this is one of them! not sure what the americans call this type, I think its a side notch point.

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Post by mr.hertzian cone on Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:33 pm

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And this is an interesting experiment with a ceramic floor tile, very tough and grainy material but I like the effect. It was a bugger to undercut the brown glaze and the back had a raised "grid" to help stick it down, not sure I will make many more points with this stuff though.

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Post by Lumpendoodle on Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:11 pm

I also find the glazing really difficult to shift. Any helpful hints in dealing with it?

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Re: Authentic Replicas

Post by grendel on Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:01 am

mr.hertzian cone wrote:[img][/img]
there are some shapes that are just pleasing to knap, and this is one of them! not sure what the americans call this type, I think its a side notch point.


I get some of my info here, says side notched, but you can also research a more precise name.
http://www.projectilepoints.net/National.html

a very nice point, what did you make it from?

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Post by mr.hertzian cone on Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:15 pm

It's made from regular Norfolk flint, this nodule was slightly on the grey side. Thanks for the link!

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Re: Authentic Replicas

Post by mr.hertzian cone on Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:52 pm

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This is the other side, a little more colour variation and some clouds!

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Post by mr.hertzian cone on Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:09 pm

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Re: Authentic Replicas

Post by mr.hertzian cone on Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:13 pm

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Talking of "clouds" here is a willow leaf shaped point. not the nicest of flint to knap but some nice mottles of grey.

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Re: Authentic Replicas

Post by mr.hertzian cone on Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:13 pm

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I've always liked the look of turkey tail points and thought of them as being difficult to knap (being thin but broad) but after making the beaker daggers which are the same blank shape, I thought it was time to try, this is what I ended up with.

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Re: Authentic Replicas

Post by grendel on Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:14 am

Ok, here's my attempt at a Danish Dagger




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Re: Authentic Replicas

Post by grendel on Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:40 pm

I love the pic of the flake in its original flake scar so much I included it in the forum logo, so I had to have a go at replicating one. The choice to make a Cahokia was entirely determined by the way the flake unexpectedly swerved left when I clobbered it, if it had kept going straight as I intended a barbed and tanged would have been the result. Oh well, that's the way the cookie crumbles, or as we knappers say, that's the way the rock conchoidally fractures.


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Post by the barnacle on Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:56 pm

i like that alot - your wording made me laugh - i thought i was the only one that used the word clobbered

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Re: Authentic Replicas

Post by grendel on Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:38 am

It's so nice to get to use the word clobbered it once in a while, usually smashed it, shattered it, broke it are more appropriate.

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Post by mr.hertzian cone on Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:30 pm

Nice white rock, is that novaculite?

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Re: Authentic Replicas

Post by grendel on Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:41 pm

Chert, the purple stuff is novaculite though.

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Re: Authentic Replicas

Post by Lumpendoodle on Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:20 pm

Do you do any heat treating of your chert? I was chatting to someone a couple of weeks ago who was trying to get me to heat treat my flint.

Still don't quite get the idea of it.

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Re: Authentic Replicas

Post by grendel on Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:57 am

Heat treating is basically baking rock, either under a fire or in an oven. No-one's too sure why but it is supposed to improve the fracturing of the rock. How much you heat treat and what temperature is trial and error for each rock. Most American rocks are heat treated, such as chert and novaculite, I've never used an unheatred one so no idea how unknappable the prebaked. Also the Indians heat treated rock prehistorically. Flint is not usually heat treated as it knaps fine unheatred, though I have heard of people heat treating it, some say it has no effect others say it does improve a bad piece.

Heat treating also changes the colour of a rock, a light rock may develop a marbled or patterned look.

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