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Post by grendel on Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:06 pm

skalla wrote:bah!

Chichester Horn

Wow. That's a website you don't see everyday..

Here's one I was thinking for handles. there are a few on ebay but overly carved and expensive, wish I could find a cheap source of basic ones like this.

http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66323

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Post by skalla on Sun Aug 18, 2013 6:06 pm

you could do a deal with a maker in exchange for some knife blades or a nice axe, adze etc... just dangle the correct stone age lovelies and bob's yer uncle - many folk can carve wood but there aint many skilled knappers here in the uk remember, and heaps of folks make wood spirits.

I've seen some lovely carved antler too, all just done via dremel as well.
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Post by the barnacle on Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:04 am

as you say a web site you don't see every day - I wonder if there are any restrictions with exporting some of the items for sale or would customs pull them to search.
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Post by skalla on Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:30 am

I would imagine that the vast majority would be fine, and i guess Customs and Excise have a web page somewhere with listed restrictions etc.

You may still find it's been opened though and comes with an explanatory letter when it arrives.
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Post by mr.hertzian cone on Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:06 pm

Dagger Handles - Page 2 <a href=Dagger Handles - Page 2 Pictur12" /> Three more from the British museum. The little black one is multi notched.
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Post by grendel on Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:06 pm

One I just made. Didn't go for too much authenticity in the handle, more bling.

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Post by the barnacle on Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:40 pm

you are having way to much fun with that new flint Smile
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Post by skalla on Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:14 pm

thats lovely, a really well chosen bit of wood too
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Post by grendel on Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:19 pm

It from that tree I asked you to ID, possibly white poplar, beautiful wood. I've made a lot of handle from it over the last few days.

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Post by mr.hertzian cone on Sun Aug 03, 2014 4:10 pm

Dagger Handles - Page 2 <a href=Dagger Handles - Page 2 Chert_10" />
This isn't a Beaker dagger though it has similar dimentions, it's from California from one of the tribes there. This picture is from the British museum's online catalogue. Hmm...
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Post by grendel on Sun Aug 03, 2014 9:07 pm

Wow, interesting hafting and handle.

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Post by grendel on Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:48 am

Here's one I made based on the one you posted.

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Post by mr.hertzian cone on Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:27 pm

Very nice, is the binding hemp? Dagger Handles - Page 2 <a href=Dagger Handles - Page 2 Flint_10" />
Here is the start of one I made a month or so back. The handle is split from a small log of Ash and carved down.
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Post by mr.hertzian cone on Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:29 pm

Dagger Handles - Page 2 <a href=Dagger Handles - Page 2 Flint_11" />Note the use of authentic tools, not! This is showing the hollowing out for the blade.
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Post by mr.hertzian cone on Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:31 pm

Dagger Handles - Page 2 <a href=Dagger Handles - Page 2 Flint_12" />
After a lot of faffing it started to fit nicely.
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Post by mr.hertzian cone on Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:33 pm

Dagger Handles - Page 2 <a href=Dagger Handles - Page 2 Flint_13" />
Notches for the sinue binding added.
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Post by mr.hertzian cone on Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:39 pm

Dagger Handles - Page 2 <a href=Dagger Handles - Page 2 Flint_14" /
All glued up with epoxy, again authentic! Wood stained and bound up with sinue and hemp cordage. The earlier photos have a tennon on the end of the handle, I was going to put a bone pommel on the end rather than use the cordage, but the pet shop stopped stocking the cleaned up bones I use for projects like this. Puah.
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Post by mr.hertzian cone on Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:46 pm

Dagger Handles - Page 2 <a href=Dagger Handles - Page 2 Flint_15" />
The sinue going on the the blade was an interpretation of a beaker dagger found in Wales, it had differential patination where the sinue touched the blade and is the only hint at maybe what these handles actually looked like in the U.K. I'm sure there was many different types as these daggers are not all notched at the sides. I'm making some more of these in the future, They do look impressive!
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Post by grendel on Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:32 pm

That is absolutely stunning, you have definitely upped the game, I'm going to have to come up with something better.

I used Jute.

Here's another one I made today.

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Post by mr.hertzian cone on Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:41 pm

He he! thanks, I've been pondering these handles for ages.
I've got to get some of the White poplar wood as the grain is really colourful.
This is the Welsh dagger I mentioned, the photo is all I could find online though there is an illustration which shows the binding traces better, it's also been partially polished on both sides of the blade which is unusual: http://education.gtj.org.uk/en/blowup1/25858
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Post by grendel on Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:26 am

Thanks,

Can see how only one side of the cross is going to be pressed against the dagger and then only halfway as the wood raises it above the blade. Yours seem to match this effect perfectly.

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Post by grendel on Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:35 am

Here's this weekend's attempt. Unbound and bound. The bound one looks better in real life, but the unbound one photographs better.

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Post by mr.hertzian cone on Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:23 pm

That's cool, I'm liking the flared handle.
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Post by the barnacle on Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:55 pm

lovely bit of work and wow nice looking flint - when are we off to load up (@;
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Post by grendel on Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:54 am

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