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Post by mr.hertzian cone Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:49 am

A quick look for natural materials that would be strong enough to make a bow string has thrown up many possibilities that would work, but which one is the best?
It would be ideal to go "native" and use only UK indigenous plants etc. but maybe that could narrow the end results, so a little experimentation will have to happen.
A good guide to how each material compares can be found in this little summery: http://www.africanarcher.com/bowstrings1.html
It is oddly laid out and the pictures and tables could well have been bigger to really see what is going on but it is a good start.
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Post by the barnacle Sun Nov 23, 2014 8:12 am

"Nettles produce one of the strongest of natural fibres, but processing this plant is labour intensive. It is harvested when fully grown or dying by being pulled out of the ground and allowed to age for a while before being boiled to release the plant fibres. An alternative is to soak the stalks in water, then gently pound them. Another option is to pull fibres from broken sections of stalk."

interesting - i have always used the tall purple nettles as you get a long stalk, i have some in the shed that i made a few years ago now so i will see how it has aged
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Post by mr.hertzian cone Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:35 pm

It's informative reading, good stuff eh?!
I was reading about hemp fibre production in Nepal the other day and they pull the plants out with the root on and just leave them out in the open, turning them over every day for the dew to rett both sides evenly (this applies to flax as well). For larger batches they put them in a clay mud filled pit and top up with water and leave for a few weeks untill the fibres just come away. I can't see why this shouldn't work with nettles.
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Post by mr.hertzian cone Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:42 am

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Ok, retting experiment. This is about 20 nettles stripped down back in the summer, the fibres have alot of woody pith still stuck to the backs so I thought a spell outside would loosen them, I tried the dew retting method of leaving them on the lawn and turning them over every day for about three days.
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Post by mr.hertzian cone Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:55 am

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This is the resulting bunch of fibres after drying. Woody bits still persistently clinging on and little change to report apart from a slight change of colour. I dried them out on the radiator and this made everything really brittle, the woody pith came off and broke the fibres. Aagh... Once left in the shed overnight to rehydrate slightly the pith came off without any damage. I only left them for three days as nettle fibres break down really quickly and I'm hoping for long strands to make a bowstring with, not a mass of fluff to spin with. Conclusion so far? You are better off pulling the fibres straight off the plant and not leaving loads of pith to start with! I'm not sure retting is right for string of this type.
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Post by mr.hertzian cone Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:06 pm

Natural bow string materials and construction. <a href=Natural bow string materials and construction. Bamboo10" />This guy has the right idea with keeping things simple, this bow is made from a split piece of green bamboo although I would say garden centre dry bamboo should pull a little more than the wet stuff. The binding and the string are of yucca which thankfully I have in the garden, just boil the leaves for a few minutes untill they go an olive green and scrape the pulp off with a spoon. Hey presto strong fibres! For a full "build along" for this bow look at this: http://sensiblesurvival.org/page/13/
This is so basic it's genius.
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Post by mr.hertzian cone Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:07 pm

Turns out that 4mm sisal string works well straight from the spool on a bow pulling 25Ib, I should imagine hemp or linen string would do the same and be able to pull more poundage. It's not quite as satisfying as making it all your self though!
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Post by grendel Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:54 am

Found this site the other day, doesn't say much about string but is interesting reading.

http://www.buewesth.dk/stenalderindex.html
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Post by the barnacle Sat Dec 20, 2014 9:16 am

that bow looks great - i think its ok to use off the spool string not far off natural also we dont have generations of time to work on the methods.
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